[Interpretationandmethods] Interpretationandmethods Digest, Vol 43, Issue 1

[Patrick Thaddeus Jackson]

The large-n stuff itself. I teach it very faithfully (I was once a  
math major, after all).

PTJ

On Jul 12, 2008, at 10:01 AM, Dvora Yanow wrote:

> Sorry -- need clarification:  what's the referent of 'it' here?
>
> Large n stuff is offputting?  or the way you teach it?  (no insult  
> intended)
>
> Dvora
>
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> Digest,Vol 43, Issue 1
>
> Can't resist:
>
> When I do this sort of thing I like the large-n stats person to go
> first, or I teach the large-n stuff first, because so many people find
> it off-putting and difficult to square with their intuitions about
> things. Then they're primed for the funkier stuff I'll introduce later
> on ;-)
>
> PTJ
>
> On Jul 11, 2008, at 7:18 PM, psshea at csbs.utah.edu wrote:
>
> > Patrick will not post again :) but I do have a response.  Yes, I  
> agree
> > that "prospecting" is dualist.
> >
> > I kind of liked being first in the sense that I "set the agenda" for
> > the students and they did not "come to me" with a prior sense that
> > ONLY variables-based quantitative research could be scientific.  I
> > think they were then more "critical" of the next very traditional
> > prof.
> >
> > Peri
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Quoting Patrick Thaddeus Jackson <patrickthaddeusjackson at gmail.com>:
> >
> >> On Jul 11, 2008, at 3:41 PM, psshea at csbs.utah.edu wrote:
> >>
> >>> Whether that metaphor is apt can be debated, but it can help
> >>> variables-researchers (PTJ - does that get me around the
> >>> realist/positivist labels?) to get some sense of why not  
> everything
> >>> can (or should) be spelled out in interpretive/relational research
> >>> proposals.
> >>
> >>
> >> It does, but of course "prospecting" is still dualist: digging  
> around
> >> for something that is presumably already out there, hidden beneath
> >> the
> >> ground, just waiting for us to stumble upon it.
> >>
> >> It's too bad that your course is doing "qualitative"/interpretive
> >> first and "quantitative"/large-n second. That format allows the
> >> second
> >> half of the course to turn to the first half and say "thanks for
> >> providing us with the raw data, we'll take it from here." Very  
> David
> >> Laitin-esque faux methodological diversity, where everyone gets to
> >> play as long as they all play the same game in the end.
> >>
> >> Okay, this is seriously the last thing I am going to post on the  
> list
> >> for a couple of weeks. I mean it.
> >>
> >> PTJ
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